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		<link>http://www.mischealthalt.com/sugar-and-honey/comment-page-1#comment-1508</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;3tk02i$...@news.cerf.net&gt;, f...@cyber.net (CyberPriestess) wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; In article &lt;DB7F9L....@spdcc.com&gt; d...@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt;In article &lt;3tbnui$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &#160; &gt;Thanks for the reply. &#160;I thought that might be true... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &#160; &gt;Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &#160; &gt;violate the no-sugar diet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I found a blend of Yerba Mate that uses Honeyleaf as a natural &lt;br /&gt; &gt; sweetener and am wondering why Honeyleaf is not used in more &lt;br /&gt; &gt; products this way? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;On the subject of honey--does anyone know the legal definition of RAW? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone reliable told me the law says 120 F heating of honey still &lt;br /&gt; qualifies it as raw. &#160;The honey I buy says it&#039;s guaranteed never to have &lt;br /&gt; been heated above 115 F. &#160;Above 118 F enzymes are destroyed. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyone know if the 120 F figure is correct? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; &#160;Andre van Meulebrouck &#160;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; &lt;br /&gt; ;; &#160;e-mail: &#160;vanme...@acm.org &#160; &#160; finger: &#160;vanme...@netcom.com &#160;;; &lt;br /&gt; ;;;;; &#160;URL: &#160;ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/va/vanmeule/home.html &#160;;;;;; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;3tk02i$&#8230;@news.cerf.net&gt;, <a href="mailto:f...@cyber.net">f&#8230;@cyber.net</a> (CyberPriestess) wrote: <br /> &gt; In article &lt;DB7F9L&#8230;.@spdcc.com&gt; <a href="mailto:d...@spdcc.com">d&#8230;@spdcc.com</a> (Steve Dyer) writes:  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt;In article &lt;3tbnui$&#8230;@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt;, <br /> &lt;f&#8230;@vms.cis.pitt.edu&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &gt;Thanks for the reply. &nbsp;I thought that might be true&#8230; <br /> &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &gt;Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not <br /> &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &gt;violate the no-sugar diet.  </p>
<p>&gt; I found a blend of Yerba Mate that uses Honeyleaf as a natural <br /> &gt; sweetener and am wondering why Honeyleaf is not used in more <br /> &gt; products this way? </p>
<p>On the subject of honey&#8211;does anyone know the legal definition of RAW?  </p>
<p>Someone reliable told me the law says 120 F heating of honey still <br /> qualifies it as raw. &nbsp;The honey I buy says it&#8217;s guaranteed never to have <br /> been heated above 115 F. &nbsp;Above 118 F enzymes are destroyed.  </p>
<p>Anyone know if the 120 F figure is correct?  </p>
<p>;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; &nbsp;Andre van Meulebrouck &nbsp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; <br /> ;; &nbsp;e-mail: &nbsp;vanme&#8230;@acm.org &nbsp; &nbsp; finger: &nbsp;vanme&#8230;@netcom.com &nbsp;;; <br /> ;;;;; &nbsp;URL: &nbsp;ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/va/vanmeule/home.html &nbsp;;;;;; </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.mischealthalt.com/sugar-and-honey/comment-page-1#comment-1506</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  In message ID &lt;3ta6um$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt; on 7/3/95, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;: Does the liver process honey and sugar (and sugar substitutes) in &lt;br /&gt; : the same way? &#160;If one is on a no-sugar diet, does this include &lt;br /&gt; : honey? Thanks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your liver never sees &quot;honey.&quot; Yes, such a diet would certainly include &lt;br /&gt; honey. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--Paul &#160;&#124;&#124; &#160;p_iann...@pop.com &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In message ID &lt;3ta6um$&#8230;@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt; on 7/3/95, <br /> 
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<p>: Does the liver process honey and sugar (and sugar substitutes) in <br /> : the same way? &nbsp;If one is on a no-sugar diet, does this include <br /> : honey? Thanks.  </p>
<p>Your liver never sees &quot;honey.&quot; Yes, such a diet would certainly include <br /> honey.  </p>
<p>&#8211;Paul &nbsp;|| &nbsp;p_iann&#8230;@pop.com <br /> &#8212; </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.mischealthalt.com/sugar-and-honey/comment-page-1#comment-1507</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;DB7F9L....@spdcc.com&gt; d...@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;In article &lt;3tbnui$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt;, &#160;&lt;f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &gt;Thanks for the reply. &#160;I thought that might be true... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &gt;Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &gt;violate the no-sugar diet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I found a blend of Yerba Mate that uses Honeyleaf as a natural &lt;br /&gt; sweetener and am wondering why Honeyleaf is not used in more &lt;br /&gt; products this way? &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;DB7F9L&#8230;.@spdcc.com&gt; <a href="mailto:d...@spdcc.com">d&#8230;@spdcc.com</a> (Steve Dyer) writes:  </p>
<p>&gt;In article &lt;3tbnui$&#8230;@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt;, &nbsp;&lt;f&#8230;@vms.cis.pitt.edu&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &gt;Thanks for the reply. &nbsp;I thought that might be true&#8230; <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &gt;Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &gt;violate the no-sugar diet. </p>
<p>I found a blend of Yerba Mate that uses Honeyleaf as a natural <br /> sweetener and am wondering why Honeyleaf is not used in more <br /> products this way? </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.mischealthalt.com/sugar-and-honey/comment-page-1#comment-1504</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;3tbnui$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt;, &#160;&lt;f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160;&gt;Thanks for the reply. &#160;I thought that might be true... &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160;&gt;Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160;&gt;violate the no-sugar diet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re on a no-sugar diet, but I would point out &lt;br /&gt; that most &quot;sugar-free&quot; products sold to the granola trade use honey &lt;br /&gt; or (particularly perniciously), concentrated fruit juice in place of &lt;br /&gt; sugar. &#160;Both are just concentrated sugar solutions (there&#039;s more &lt;br /&gt; fructose in honey and fruit juice), so to claim that products made &lt;br /&gt; with either are &quot;sugar free&quot; is quite misleading, not that there&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; anything wrong with them otherwise. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Steve Dyer &lt;br /&gt; d...@ursa-major.spdcc.com &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;3tbnui$&#8230;@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt;, &nbsp;&lt;f&#8230;@vms.cis.pitt.edu&gt; wrote: </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;Thanks for the reply. &nbsp;I thought that might be true&#8230; <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;&gt;violate the no-sugar diet. <br /> 
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re on a no-sugar diet, but I would point out <br /> that most &quot;sugar-free&quot; products sold to the granola trade use honey <br /> or (particularly perniciously), concentrated fruit juice in place of <br /> sugar. &nbsp;Both are just concentrated sugar solutions (there&#8217;s more <br /> fructose in honey and fruit juice), so to claim that products made <br /> with either are &quot;sugar free&quot; is quite misleading, not that there&#8217;s <br /> anything wrong with them otherwise.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Steve Dyer <br /> <a href="mailto:d...@ursa-major.spdcc.com">d&#8230;@ursa-major.spdcc.com</a> </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  In message ID &lt;3tbnui$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt; on 7/4/95, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;: Thanks for the reply. &#160;I thought that might be true... &lt;br /&gt; : Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not &lt;br /&gt; : violate the no-sugar diet. &lt;br /&gt; : And while I&#039;m asking you these questions, do you have any &lt;br /&gt; : knowledge about the effects of shark cartilege on rheumatoid &lt;br /&gt; : arthritis and/or psoriasis? &lt;br /&gt; : &lt;br /&gt; : Thanks again... &lt;br /&gt; : &lt;br /&gt; : Faith &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t believe it is helpful for those conditions. Why are you trying to &lt;br /&gt; avoid sugars? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--Paul &#160;&#124;&#124; &#160;p_iann...@pop.com &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In message ID &lt;3tbnui$&#8230;@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt; on 7/4/95, <br /> 
<p><a href="mailto:f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu">f&#8230;@vms.cis.pitt.edu</a> wrote: </p>
<p>: Thanks for the reply. &nbsp;I thought that might be true&#8230; <br /> : Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not <br /> : violate the no-sugar diet. <br /> : And while I&#8217;m asking you these questions, do you have any <br /> : knowledge about the effects of shark cartilege on rheumatoid <br /> : arthritis and/or psoriasis? <br /> : <br /> : Thanks again&#8230; <br /> : <br /> : Faith  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe it is helpful for those conditions. Why are you trying to <br /> avoid sugars?  </p>
<p>&#8211;Paul &nbsp;|| &nbsp;p_iann&#8230;@pop.com <br /> &#8212; </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;381747198.19831...@pop.com&gt;, p_iann...@pop.com (Paul Iannone) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; In message ID &lt;3ta6um$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt; on 7/3/95, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; : Does the liver process honey and sugar (and sugar substitutes) in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; : the same way? &#160;If one is on a no-sugar diet, does this include &lt;br /&gt; &gt; : honey? Thanks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Your liver never sees &quot;honey.&quot; Yes, such a diet would certainly include &lt;br /&gt; &gt; honey. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; --Paul &#160;&#124;&#124; &#160;p_iann...@pop.com&gt; - &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the reply. &#160;I thought that might be true... &lt;br /&gt; Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not &lt;br /&gt; violate the no-sugar diet. &lt;br /&gt; And while I&#039;m asking you these questions, do you have any &lt;br /&gt; knowledge about the effects of shark cartilege on rheumatoid &lt;br /&gt; arthritis and/or psoriasis? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks again... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Faith &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;381747198.19831&#8230;@pop.com&gt;, <a href="mailto:p_iann...@pop.com">p_iann&#8230;@pop.com</a> (Paul Iannone) writes: <br /> &gt; In message ID &lt;3ta6um$&#8230;@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu&gt; on 7/3/95, <br /> &gt; <a href="mailto:f...@vms.cis.pitt.edu">f&#8230;@vms.cis.pitt.edu</a> wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt; : Does the liver process honey and sugar (and sugar substitutes) in <br /> &gt; : the same way? &nbsp;If one is on a no-sugar diet, does this include <br /> &gt; : honey? Thanks.  </p>
<p>&gt; Your liver never sees &quot;honey.&quot; Yes, such a diet would certainly include <br /> &gt; honey.  </p>
<p>&gt; &#8211;Paul &nbsp;|| &nbsp;p_iann&#8230;@pop.com&gt; &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. &nbsp;I thought that might be true&#8230; <br /> Can you make suggestions for natural sweeteners that would not <br /> violate the no-sugar diet. <br /> And while I&#8217;m asking you these questions, do you have any <br /> knowledge about the effects of shark cartilege on rheumatoid <br /> arthritis and/or psoriasis?  </p>
<p>Thanks again&#8230;  </p>
<p>Faith </p>
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