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December 20, 2009

Re: Under action thyroid condition

Filed under: Uncategorized — admin @ 3:19 pm

In message <1995Aug11.153512.16…@ssd.loral.com> Jo A. Johnson wrote:

> Hi out there,
> I have been for years treated for an underactive thryoid.
> The doctor has been experimenting with synthroid in all
> doses and I can’t get it under control.  Another alternative
> is surgery which I want to avoid.  My weight goes up and down
> throughout the year, my energy level is low, skin dry, brittle
> nails, etc.

Interesting.
My understanding is that an underactive thyroid gland is not producing
sufficient thyroid hormonr, leading to the symptoms you describe.
The orthodox treatment is to replace the missing hormone with
sythetic hormone.
How does surgery fit in?
Surgery may be recommended for an *over*active thyroid – to remove
some of the gland, and thus cut down the amount of hormone produced.
Enlightenment awaited.


Iain Hotchkies MBChB

                                     ambition: polymath
                                    currently: jack of all trades
                                    corollary: master of none

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  1. Hi out there,
    I have been for years treated for an underactive thryoid.
    The doctor has been experimenting with synthroid in all
    doses and I can’t get it under control.  Another alternative
    is surgery which I want to avoid.  My weight goes up and down
    throughout the year, my energy level is low, skin dry, brittle
    nails, etc.

    Are there any solutions, herbs, etc.
    Please respond to:
    jo…@venus.ssd.loral.com

    Thanks for your help

    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

  2. Jo A. Johnson (jo…@spl1.spl.loral.com) wrote:
    : Hi out there,
    : I have been for years treated for an underactive thryoid.
    : The doctor has been experimenting with synthroid in all
    : doses and I can’t get it under control.  Another alternative
    : is surgery which I want to avoid.  My weight goes up and down
    : throughout the year, my energy level is low, skin dry, brittle
    : nails, etc.

    There are other Thyroid replacements besides Synthroid. Have you tried them?

    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

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    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

  4. On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, jo…@spl1.spl.loral.com (Jo A. Johnson) wrote:

    >I have been for years treated for an underactive thryoid.
    >The doctor has been experimenting with synthroid in all
    >doses and I can’t get it under control.  Another alternative
    >is surgery which I want to avoid.  My weight goes up and down
    >throughout the year, my energy level is low, skin dry, brittle
    >nails, etc.
    >Are there any solutions,

    Here’s something that suggests that another condition could be the primary
    cause of your problems. If so, then control of it could control your
    thyroid.

    Coeliac disease and autoimmune thyroid disease, Gut, 1994, June, Vol 35,
    Pg. 844-6. Counsell, et al.

    A well defined cohort of coeliac patients was studied prospectively to
    assess the prevalence of coexisting thyroid disease and positive thyroid
    autoantibodies. Comparison with epidemiological data on the prevalence of
    coeliac disease in a neighboring area suggested that few adult coeliac
    patients had been missed. Overall, 14% of the coeliac patients had thyroid
    disease: 10.3% were hypothyroid and 3.7% hyperthyroid, both significantly
    more than expected. There were significantly more coeliac disease patients
    with thyroid autoantibodies than expected–11% had thyroglobulin antibodies
    and 15% had thyroid microsomal antibodies. This association is clinically
    important. Three patients are described in whom the coexistence of coeliac
    disease and hypothyroidism led to diagnostic difficulties and delay of
    treatment.

    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

  5. In article <422osp$…@news1.panix.com>, donw…@bondcalc.com (Don Wiss)
    wrote:

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    > On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, jo…@spl1.spl.loral.com (Jo A. Johnson) wrote:

    > >I have been for years treated for an underactive thryoid.
    > >The doctor has been experimenting with synthroid in all
    > >doses and I can’t get it under control.  Another alternative
    > >is surgery which I want to avoid.  My weight goes up and down
    > >throughout the year, my energy level is low, skin dry, brittle
    > >nails, etc.

    > >Are there any solutions,

    > Here’s something that suggests that another condition could be the primary
    > cause of your problems. If so, then control of it could control your
    > thyroid.

    > Coeliac disease and autoimmune thyroid disease, Gut, 1994, June, Vol 35,
    > Pg. 844-6. Counsell, et al.

    > A well defined cohort of coeliac patients was studied prospectively to
    > assess the prevalence of coexisting thyroid disease and positive thyroid
    > autoantibodies. Comparison with epidemiological data on the prevalence of
    > coeliac disease in a neighboring area suggested that few adult coeliac
    > patients had been missed. Overall, 14% of the coeliac patients had thyroid
    > disease: 10.3% were hypothyroid and 3.7% hyperthyroid, both significantly
    > more than expected. There were significantly more coeliac disease patients
    > with thyroid autoantibodies than expected–11% had thyroglobulin antibodies
    > and 15% had thyroid microsomal antibodies. This association is clinically
    > important. Three patients are described in whom the coexistence of coeliac
    > disease and hypothyroidism led to diagnostic difficulties and delay of
    > treatment.

    What is coeliac?

    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

  6. On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, jo…@spl1.spl.loral.com (Jo A. Johnson) wrote:

    >I have been for years treated for an underactive thryoid.
    >The doctor has been experimenting with synthroid in all
    >doses and I can’t get it under control.  Another alternative
    >is surgery which I want to avoid.  My weight goes up and down
    >throughout the year, my energy level is low, skin dry, brittle
    >nails, etc.
    >Are there any solutions,
    On Wed, Aug. 30th, Don Wiss,donw…@bondcalc.com,Internet wrote:

    Here’s something that suggests that another condition could be the primary
    cause of your problems. If so, then control of it could control your
    thyroid.

    Coeliac disease and autoimmune thyroid disease, Gut, 1994, June, Vol 35,
    Pg. 844-6. Counsell, et al.

    A well defined cohort of coeliac patients was studied prospectively to
    assess the prevalence of coexisting thyroid disease and positive thyroid
    autoantibodies. Comparison with epidemiological data on the prevalence of
    coeliac disease in a neighboring area suggested that few adult coeliac
    patients had been missed. Overall, 14% of the coeliac patients had thyroid
    disease: 10.3% were hypothyroid and 3.7% hyperthyroid, both significantly
    more than expected. There were significantly more coeliac disease patients
    with thyroid autoantibodies than expected–11% had thyroglobulin antibodies
    and 15% had thyroid microsomal antibodies. This association is clinically
    important. Three patients are described in whom the coexistence of coeliac
    disease and hypothyroidism led to diagnostic difficulties and delay of
    treatment.

    I have not heard the term "Coeliac" disease.  I do have Hashimoto’s Syndrome
    which is a thyroid autoimune disease.  I have a very high level of thyroid
    antibodies.  I also have a nodule on my thyroid and take synthroid so that my
    thyroid does not have to produce its own synthroid, and therefore does not
    work as hard which causes the nodule to shrink in size.  I think the nodule
    is a "cold" nodule.  I has been biopsied three times and found to be benign.
    I do have some days where I have low energy and my body aches all over as if
    I am coming down with a bad case of the flu but then the next day I am fine,
    or sometimes it lasts for several days.  Fortunately, these "achy" days are
    fewer and far between in recent months.  I do find myself constantly
    irritable since starting to take synthroid, especially since the last dosage
    increase last December.  A pharmacist said this is a common occurrence.  I do
    not often have weight fluctuations.  My weight will stay stable for a few
    months and then change and stay at that weight for several months.  My
    endocronologist says that I should not be experiencing any side effects from
    the synthroid or Hashimoto’s Syndrome, but my general practitioner disagrees.
     Lately, I have lots of trouble falling asleep and staying asleep throughout
    the night and my menstral periods are twice as long as they used to be.  My
    gynocologist said this is caused by the synthroid.  Any info on Hashimoto’s
    Syndrome would be greatly appreciated.  Is Hashimoto’s Syndrome a "Coeliac"
    disease?

     Jo A Johnson, have your doctor check your thyroid antibody levels.  Maybe
    that is adding to your problem and especially may be causing the difficulty
    in finding the proper dose for your synthroid.  I took my doctor about a year
    and a half to find the right dose (according to my endocronologist), although
    I think I am taking too much with the sleep problems, long periods and
    irritability.

    Bonnie

    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

  7. On 31 Aug 1995, stroh…@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kristin Strohecker) asked:

    >What is coeliac?

    Celiac (or coeliac) disease is the medical name for intolerance to gluten,
    a protein that is found in all wheat (more so in bread and pasta), but also
    found in lesser quantity in rye, barley, oats and all foodstuffs containing
    one of these grains, including many food chemicals like HVP.

    It is rarely tested for and is consequently grossly underdiagnosed.

    In undiagnosed celiac patients the intestinal villi has flattened which
    dramatically reduces the surface are available for *fat* soluble minerals
    and vitamins. Additionally, the intestinal wall is excessively porous; not
    only are nutrients improperly absorbed, but large molecules which should be
    contained by the gut wall are not, and improperly digested peptides could
    pass into the bloodstream and get where they shouldn’t be.

    Celiac disease can be screened for with a combination of antigliadin (IgA &
    IgG) and endomysial antibody testing of the blood. It is definitively
    tested for by a small bowel biopsy of the mucosa which can be obtained by
    an endoscopist in the distal duodenum. The patient must be consuming gluten
    at the time of the tests.

    There is a gluten-free mailing list at <lists…@sjuvm.stjohns.edu> with
    700+ members. To join, send a message to the listserv with SUB CELIAC
    yourfirstname yourlastname in the body of the message. The FAQ can be
    obtained by putting GET CELIAC FAQ in the body of a message to the list
    server. Even more info is available if GET NEWCEL PACKAGE is included. Log
    files and other GETable documents also exist.

    This web page will lead to all others: http://www.hooked.net/users/sadams/

    I also have a survey of symptoms which I can send.

    Don, gluten-free in NYC <donw…@bondcalc.com>

    Comment by admin — December 20, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

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