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Mary
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Essiac

Suppies Needed:
5 alon stainless stel/or enamel ptt with lid (Do nt se aluminum)
3 gallon stiineess steel/or enmmel pot or bowl
Stainless steel fine mesh strainer
Stainless steel spatula
Funnel
12 or more 16 ounce ambe bottles with airtght caps
(yoummay use bigger bottes if you like.  Pancake syrupbbottles, etc,
may be use. The dark amer color protects he medicinal ingreients
of the formula.)
2 gallons distilld water or spring water

Essiac Formula
21.5 unces of Burdock Rot Q cut an  sifted (Arctium Lappa)
16 ounces of Sheep Sorrel Q powdered (Rumax Acetosella)
1 ounce of Turkey Rhubarb Root Q Rheum Palmatum)
4 ounces of Slippery Elm Bark Q powdered )Ulmus Fulva)

CAUTION :  Please note:  These herbs MUST be prepared in the proper
ratios.  Incorrect preparation of this formula could prove harmful.
I notice on the list that the recipe is given includes the statement
6 1/2 cups of burdock!  By my calculations that’s 52 ounces
Qassuming that a cup still contains 8 ounces.
Many recipes have been sent around with mistakes in
them to mislead the people.  The correct proportions for
approximately two gallons of formula may be ordered from the
Herbal Healer Academy, HC 32 Box 97 B,. Mountain View AR 72560,
for the reasonable price of $9.95 + $1.50 regular or $2.90 Priority
postage.

Procedure:
1.  Mix the four herbs together thoroughly

2.  Bring 2 gallons of distilled or spring water to a rolling boil
in the 5 gallon pot with the lid on

3.  Stir in ONE cup of the herbal formula.
Replace lid and boil for 10 Minutes

4.  Turn off stove.  Scrape sides down with your spatula, mix well
and allow the pot to remain closed for 12 hours for the steeping  process.
This will extract the healing herbs.

5.  Turn heat back on and boil for 20 minutes

6.  Turn stove off.  Let cool a little.  Strain liquid into
3 gallon pot or large bowl.  Clean 5 gallon pot and strainer.
Strain the liquid back into the now clean 5 gallon pot.

7.  Reheat for one minute.  Use a funnel to pour hot liquid
into bottles immediately.  Tighten the caps.
Allow bottles to cool and then tighten caps again.
8.  Refrigerate.  Essiac contains no preservatives,
so if mold should develop in a bottle discard it immediately.

Note:  You may "put up" extra formula in canning jars.
The glass jars should be washed in hot water, rinsed and
placed in the oven at 200-215 degrees for 10 minutes.
The lids should have boiling water poured over them.
When your herbal liquid is strained for the last time,
bring it back to a boil.  Take out your jars and fill to within
 1/2" from the top.  Put the lids on and seal tight.
Then turn the hot jars over for five minutes.
Then let them cool upright.  You will hear a little
popping sound, which tells you the seal has been made.
Store in a cool dark place.

Directions for use
Heat 4 tablespoons of pure water, and add an equal
amount of Essiac (shaken)  Stir it up and drink
ON AN EMPTY STOMACH either upon arising or at bedtime.
It is non-toxic but potent stuff and you should start out
with one dose and work up to two or three.
Severe illness should use three doses a day.

I had to improvise a little and use extra pots and bowls since
I didn’t have the giant pan required.
I kept mine in the icebox and it seemed to stay fresh,
although a little sediment does "settle out" in the bottle.
I used a single dose a day for about a quart and a pint’s worth,
and my thyroid insufficiency cleared up within a few weeks.
Probably would have worked faster if I’d used more.
It’s mainly a cure for cancer, and you’ve probably seen
a lot of reports of hopeless cases surviving for years
because of Essiac treatments.
But I think it can do good things for a lot of other conditions.

be well,
betsy

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                 psychiatrist and author Dr. Thomas Szasz, and South
                 African Libertarian leader Frances Kendall.

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Dean Ahmad              Jim Hudler              Sheldon Richman
Karen Allard            Jeff Hummel             Kathleen Richman
Rick Arnold             Alexander Joseph        Dan Rosenthal
Dr. George Ayittey      Frances Kendall         Dr. Mary Ruwart
Alan Boch               Martin Luther King      Dagny Sharon
Richard Boddie          Me-Me King              Jane Shaw
Gus Dizerega            Henry Lamb              Sandy Shaw
Larry Dodge             Amy Lassen              L. Neil Smith
Dr. Richard Ebeling     Scott Lieberman         Eric Sterling
Don Ernsberger          Dr. Nancy Lord          Dr. Richard Stroup
Bill Evers              Russell Means           Dr. Thomas Szasz
Bonnie Flickenger       Vince Miller            Michael Tanner
John Fund               Maury Modine            Sojourner Truth
Doris Gordon            David Nolan             Yuri Tuvim
Leon Hadar              Randall O’Toole         Bob Waldrop
Patrick Henry           James Ostrowski         Terree Wasley
Karl Hess               Dirk Pearson            Perry Willis
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st…@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark) writes:

>an…@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Rees) writes…

>>My girlfriend is interested in the Cybernetics Cybertrim weight loss and
>>training program.  Does anyone have any experiences with these types of

>program, that alone would give her a good start, and it’s still cheaper than
>most food-supplied weight loss programs (though not as reliable)
>like Weight Watchers and Nutri-System, which both seem to have a good
>success rate.

Just a quick clarification on Weight Watchers, being a successful
~50-lb loser:

Weight Watchers only introduced Personal Cuisine, their packaged
food program, in mid-1992 (if I recall correctly). The Weight Watchers
program still stresses, and revolves around, learning how to
buy and cook "real" food in a healthy, satisfying way, as it has
for something like 40 years or so.

I have personally tried the Personal Cuisine, and know many other
WW members who have done the same. It is a good way for members to get
an idea of appropriate portion sizes, etc., and is convenient
for hurried schedules and the like. But it is an *optional*
supplement to the eating behavior guidelines and lessons learned
in the WW program.

I believe this is contrary to the Nutri-System program, which
actually requires N-S packaged food to be purchased for at least
part of the time on the program. I do not have any personal
experience with N-S (since I chose WW for the very reason that the
packaged food was *optional*), however, and would appreciate
clarification of these facts if they are incorrect.

[Note: I am not a representative or employee of Weight Watchers,
Nutri-System, or any other weight-loss organization.]
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Has anyone seen a report on what effect long-term use of Enchincea can do?  
Are there any side effects?

One of my admonitions in SOME GUIDLELINES ON CHOOSING A GOOD CHIROPRACTOR was toavoid one who in any way competitively suggests that chiropractic is in any way better than medicine. It appears I should have said, "greater than or equal to" to addresss the persistent effort of those of the ‘alternate’ school that see
chiropractic as just another kind of medicine and and a viable alternate
healthcare option…a choice… let’s say like choosing between vanilla or
chocolate when you want ice cream. While the impact of picking chocolate on any given day is harmless, I suggest that treating your chiropractor as an entry
level physician when you have a complaint is a more serious choice with greater ramifications, and in my opinion, is inappropriate, since Chiropractors are NOT qualified to be primary care providers.

Please be clear. I’m not saying that certain prodedures done in a chiropractic
office are not occassionally useful with some  musculoskeletal conditions (or
even that an unexpected physiologic miracle could occur). I am saying that,
among other things, the training of the chiropractor is inadequate to the task
of diagnosing and treating MOST conditions for which people go to the doctor andRARE conditions which rarely underly patient’s entering complaints
of back pain, but nonetheless do occur (and YOU don’t want to be that patient). Most chiropractors should not even be considered competent musculoskeletal
doctors or even back specialists since almost all their ‘clinical’ training,
including diagnosis and management is dedicated to "finding and fixing the
Subluxation" which I have said before, is delusional.

I am spurred to write this in response to a recent publication of
the the course work that must be completed by chiropractors side-by-side the
requirements of MDs. The suggestion, I imagine, is that, "See, chiropractors
have the same training as MDs…even MORE because they also do…."  While I
understand the motivation of a given chiropractor or the profession promoting
this pseudo-equivilent notion by calling each other "doctor", wearing white
coats in school, and publishing similar ‘comparisons’, I wouldn’t rely on the
unconsidered assertions of patients who "really like their chiropractor", are
sure that, "It works" or who "know lots of people who have benefited" when
choosing a primary physician. But most of all, I  wouldn’t use chiropractic
education as a justification for my chiropractic proclivity.

You see, the chiropractic profession is fundamentally conflicted about
education. On the one hand, they come from and often prefer to be identified
with a Healer tradition..( some are pretty good Healers) and on the other, they want to participate in the healthcare  and insurance industry ..and so are forced to legitimize their therapy in the eyes of the scientific community
and account for their diagnoses and treatments in medical terms to insurance
companies. And so chiropractic’s relationship to the medical model, like any
educational requirement your heart’s not in.. is handled poorly, is unsupported,and most frequently ‘put-up-with’ by students who have no real intent of ever
applying the material professionally. "Adjust the spine..and all is fine."

This schizophrenic attitude toward the western heteropathic tradition
crystalizes in the chiropractic student’s clinic experience which starts in
their 8th quarter (out of 12 total) where for the first time they must reconcilethe basic and clinical sciences with their chiropractic philosophy and
methodolgy. It is as I’ve mentioned before, a conflict between whether there is such a thing as pathology as defined by anatomic and physiologic abnormalities
on the one hand,  and a conceptual Pathology (Subluxation) based on the need forthe chiropractor to sell themselves as the Solution on the other (or in other
words, "tissue is the issue"). It was B.J. Palmer (the son of D.D., the ‘father’of chiropractic) who denied the existence of the cranial nerves (anatomy)
because they didn’t fit with his Subluxation paradigm (delusional Pathology).
This kind of denial underlies chiropractic ‘education’ and practice today.

While I don’t think you can get any deeper than fundamental differences (by
definition), the comparison list (which essentially appears accurate to me)
leaves out several important facts pertinent in evaluating it’s implication..
which is that you can rely on a chiropractor for diagnosis and treatment of
things medical, from glaucoma to neck pain, since they like MDs have the same
course-work in basic and clinical sciences. Let me say
something about what’s not on the list and you can make your own decision.

1) Compared to getting into medical school, matriculating to chiropractic
school is a breeze. Only 2 years of undergrad pre-requisites are needed with
only (I believe) passing grades in the required courses. Many chiropractors havetaken their basic science pre-reqs at schools that offer special 6-week-end
courses in each. There is no equivilency in chiropractic to the MCAT
(Medical College Admissions Test) which considered alone is not a good predictorof what kind of doctor you will be, but is an indicator of a certain level of intellectual function. I myself was accepted to a ‘good’ chiropractic school with only a phone call having already met the requirements and having the money.
*I* suggested that they actually meet me personally (as in interview) to make
sure I wasn’t a mass-murderer.

A person’s character and especially their intellectual interests and motivation are not really considered in the application process. Chiropractic schools are
essentially trade schools, for the most part tuition dependent, and can’t affordto be picky as in ‘choosing’ who comes….and because the schools need the
tuition, they also can’t afford to lose anyone who, even at a chiropractic
school, is demonstratebly stupid, incompetent, and/or dishonest. I think the
quality of the entering student has some bearing on the ultimate product.

2) The faculty at chiropractic schools generally do not have expertise in the
areas they teach. Often they are DC’s who have done their best to put together
a course in pathology or diagnosis, but have no experience (as a doctor of
medicine) beyond the textbooks they learned from and the DC’s that taught them. Basic sciences……my "biophysics" teacher, maintained you weighed less when
you picked one foot off the ground and that there was no gravity on the moon.
Clinical sciences…the OBGYN course is taught by a DC who believes that
new-borns need to be Adjusted to treat the neck trauma incurred at birth.
(Well…I guess you can’t be too careful).

3) Being at clinic is like having a free ticket to "Ripley’s, believe it or
not." The atrocities that go on daily in the name of chiropractic are too many
to enumerate…using non-medically diagnostic x-rays to "locate the Subluxation"…Adjusting the first cervical vertebrae on a patient who has passed out (as
an emergency measure)…faculty DC’s, when asked to confirm an arrhythmia,
telling a student not to worry about it…only because they themselves have no
idea what to listen for…and in any case the Adjustment will take care of It…and on..and on.

Chiropractic outpatient clinics, where the so-called ‘clinical’ training takes
place are not affiliated with any hospital. Students do not see the patient’s
they only read about enough to have a valuable opinion about a rash, a bump, or even a pain. The faculty DC’s are genereally adherents of a particular
chiropractic Technique and so frequently only know even a narrow spectrum of
their already narrow chiropractic approach. For example, somone who practices
NUCCA Technique may ask another faculty to help a student who practices
Biomechanics Technique because they (the faculty) "aren’t very good with low
back Adjusting. In NUCCA, any patient complaint is caused by misalignment of thefirst cervical vertebra and "corrected", using the LOC (Line Of Correction)
derived from bogus calculations of lines drawn on special chiropractic X-rays,
employing a ‘triceps pull’ …an Adjustment in which the practitioner stands
over the patient with their pisiform contacting the patient’s Atlas (C1)…
then, by isolating the triceps muscles and slowly contracting them in both arms..the Adjusment is made. If a student spends their entire clinic "mastering" suchan irrelevent medicine…how does this speak to the issue of training for
primary care…or even a back specialist?

I am not aware of any required ‘externship’ above and beyond the clinic
requirements to which I referred. Perhaps this was an inference made somehow
from the literature being quoted. Students when graduating often first go to
work in an established practice to "hone" their Technique…eg Gonstead, Toggle,Network etc….and to learn some billing tricks, but there is nothing in this
country at least, that parallels the 3-5 internship and residency of an MD aftertheir graduation. I believe in Switzerland, there is an attempt at such an
‘externship’, but it is 2 years…and it’s in a practicing in a chiropractor’s
office…again isolated from the mainstream.

John Badanes, DC, CA
rom…@uclink.berkeley.edu

On 28 February, CBS’s _60_Minutes_ ran a segment about the use of shark
cartilage in the treatment of cancer.  In closing they mentioned that
the taxpayer-supported National Institutes of Health (or perhaps it was
the National Cancer Institute?) was preparing to study said treatment,
thus lending some credibility to it.

By coincidence I had just run across the health magazine _Alternatives_
which has been following the use of shark cartilage to treat both cancer
and arthritis.  I have read some of the medical references cited by
_Alternatives_ and there seems reason to believe that said treatment
could show promise.

Does anyone have any personal, or anecdotal, experience with cartilage
used in this manner?

Does anyone have an opinion about _Alternatives_ or the material it covers?

        Bob     [e-mail: f...@boi.hp.com]

Would anyone have any information as to a nutritional product similar
in action to the antidepressant Zoloft (sertraline)? Also, any info
re: the idea of weaning oneself off of the drug while simultaneously
increasing neuro-nutritional supplementation?

Thank you.

Hi,

 I’m hoping that I may get some opinions from you regarding
a "National Health Care System."  I have heard that the United
States is considering adopting such a system, similar to that
which Canada currently has.  I have heard people say that it
is a bad idea and that they don’t want it BUT, I have yet to
hear of any reasons why not.  For that matter I have been unable
to find information (ie magazine articles) to support why we
shouldn’t have a "National Helath Care System".  So, I’m hoping
that some of you wise net-folk can either offer reasons, opinions,
facts, ect. about why the United States should NOT adopt such a
system please let me know.

Thanks,
Cathy

Sorry, if not appropriate posting place.

Some herbal nutritional supplements that advertised as "free-radical
scavengers" cause liver damage. One is chaparral, which is
extracted from creosote. So can the supplements germander,
groundsel, skullcap, comfrey, and mistletoe.

J. Am. Med. Assoc., Dec. 16, 1992

Spinal manipulation has been shown to help ease back pain temporarily,
but some chiropractors don’t know their limits. They use spinal
manipulation to treat asthma, indigestion, constipation, and migraine.
There are no good controlled studies to show that spinal manipulation
is an effective treatment for these conditions.

Annals of Internal Medicine, Oct. 1992
J. of Manipulative and Phys. Ther., Mar-Apr 1992

There is no evidence that DMG has any health benefits. In 1943,
Ernest Krebs isolated a chemical from apricot pits, which he called
pangamic acid, which later became known as vitamin B15.

Entrepreneurs have made millions by marketing it as a cure for
asthma, immune defects, heart attacks, cancer, and other diseases.
The FDA seized samples from 22 companies and found different
chemicals among them, meaning we don’t even know what pangamic
acid is.

Mirkin Report, Dec. 1992

Chelation therapy doesn’t work. It’s supposed to relieve the
symptoms of claudication, which occur when people develop severe
pain in their legs after walking for a few minutes. The pain is
caused by fatty plaques that block blood flow in the legs. Some
doctors inject chelating agents, such as EDTA, into the veins of
these patients to unblock the arteries. However, the calcium
deposits associated with the fatty plaques are a result of the
artery damage, not the cause, making it an ineffective treatment.

There is no evidence that chelation therapy is effective in
preventing strokes and heart attacks, either.

J. of Internal Medicine, 1992;231

Coenzyme Q10 pills sold in health-food stores do not improve
athletic performance.

Int. J. of Sports Nutr., 1992;2

Don’t believe ads that claim enzyme pills will help you lose weight,
prevent heart disease, cancer, diabetes, treat acne, and treat
varicose veins.

In particular, if you are among the 50% of Americans who get
diarrhea or cramps from diary products, don’t take the missing
enzyme by mouth. Instead, drink LactAid milk, or add the missing
enzyme to the milk and leave it in the fridge for 24 hours.

Mirkin Report, Sept. 1992

        I’m currently on Accutane and as anyone who has used it can tell you,
it dries out your skin incredibly.  This side effect is increased since there
is almost no humidity out/up here.  When I sweat when running or even when I
just ‘heat up’ in a situation, my skin and even my scalp gets extremely itchy.
        I’ve swithced to Neutrogena soap since it rinses away very cleanly,
but it does not seem to do anything to moisterize the skin.  Does anyone have
any remedies that has helped them to some extent?  I’m especially looking for
a readily available soap for my body (not my face) since it is not always
convenient to apply lotion to every dry surface on my skin.  I only have the
acne on my face so do not think that there are any worries about what I use
on my trunk unless it has vitamin A in it for some reason.  Also any ideas
on what to use for my scalp?  I was just thinking of using the Head & Shoulders
for dry scalp shampoo.  Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks for the time,
Eric
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   —   </\_  violates our genetic warranty   lore…@rintintin.Colorado.EDU
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